Comments on: The Lisbon Treaty Rejected By Irish Electorate http://www.youghalonline.com/2008/06/13/the-lisbon-treaty-rejected-by-irish-electorate/ Your online community news... Wed, 08 Feb 2012 19:09:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Paul O'Connor http://www.youghalonline.com/2008/06/13/the-lisbon-treaty-rejected-by-irish-electorate/comment-page-1/#comment-628 Paul O'Connor Wed, 02 Jul 2008 18:54:07 +0000 http://www.youghalonline.com/?p=763#comment-628 The Lisbon Treaty and its forerunner, the European Constitution, have now been rejected three times - by voters in France, the Netherlands, and Ireland. Why don't the European political elite accept Lisbon is dead, instead of trying to push ahead with ratification and bully Ireland into reversing it democratic decision? Our government should defend the verdict of the people rather than collude with French and Germans to try to get around it. Lisbon cannot come into effect without all 27 countries ratifying. If European leaders criticise Ireland our government should challenge them to put the treaty to a democratic vote in their own countries - nearly every population in Europe would reject it. Fair play to Sinn Féin, they were the only party to take a stand for Irish democracy and neutrality when the political establishment were trying to ram this treaty down our throat. The Lisbon Treaty and its forerunner, the European Constitution, have now been rejected three times – by voters in France, the Netherlands, and Ireland. Why don’t the European political elite accept Lisbon is dead, instead of trying to push ahead with ratification and bully Ireland into reversing it democratic decision? Our government should defend the verdict of the people rather than collude with French and Germans to try to get around it. Lisbon cannot come into effect without all 27 countries ratifying. If European leaders criticise Ireland our government should challenge them to put the treaty to a democratic vote in their own countries – nearly every population in Europe would reject it. Fair play to Sinn Féin, they were the only party to take a stand for Irish democracy and neutrality when the political establishment were trying to ram this treaty down our throat.

]]> By: Tom Slattery http://www.youghalonline.com/2008/06/13/the-lisbon-treaty-rejected-by-irish-electorate/comment-page-1/#comment-625 Tom Slattery Wed, 02 Jul 2008 08:58:49 +0000 http://www.youghalonline.com/?p=763#comment-625 Enough of this claptrap about neutrality. Neutrality IS NOT and NEVER HAS BEEN enshrined in Bunreacht na hEireann, available online if you want to read it, and men neither fought nor died for it. Ireland never has been neutral in the full sense of the word. Irish Neutrality was enacted by Dail Eireann at the outbreak of WWII. German Luftwaffe pilots captured in Ireland were detained while RAF pilots were returned to the UK. Even today US troops flow through Shannon airport. This is not neutrality but another Irish solution to an Irish problem. It should also be noted that until 1949 Ireland was a member of the Commonwealth and the Republic of Ireland did not exist until the Republic of Ireland Act was enacted by Dail Eireann on 1st April 1949. Ignorance of Irish history by people who should know better never ceases to amaze me. Enough of this claptrap about neutrality. Neutrality IS NOT and NEVER HAS BEEN enshrined in Bunreacht na hEireann, available online if you want to read it, and men neither fought nor died for it.

Ireland never has been neutral in the full sense of the word. Irish Neutrality was enacted by Dail Eireann at the outbreak of WWII. German Luftwaffe pilots captured in Ireland were detained while RAF pilots were returned to the UK. Even today US troops flow through Shannon airport. This is not neutrality but another Irish solution to an Irish problem.

It should also be noted that until 1949 Ireland was a member of the Commonwealth and the Republic of Ireland did not exist until the Republic of Ireland Act was enacted by Dail Eireann on 1st April 1949.

Ignorance of Irish history by people who should know better never ceases to amaze me.

]]> By: Freda Landers http://www.youghalonline.com/2008/06/13/the-lisbon-treaty-rejected-by-irish-electorate/comment-page-1/#comment-621 Freda Landers Tue, 01 Jul 2008 15:35:33 +0000 http://www.youghalonline.com/?p=763#comment-621 Great to see a NO outcome! Why should we turn our back on our neutrality that men fought and died for!!!! Great to see a NO outcome! Why should we turn our back on our neutrality that men fought and died for!!!!

]]> By: Cormac O'Brien http://www.youghalonline.com/2008/06/13/the-lisbon-treaty-rejected-by-irish-electorate/comment-page-1/#comment-562 Cormac O'Brien Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:02:31 +0000 http://www.youghalonline.com/?p=763#comment-562 It sickens me to see Sinn Fein use the Lisbon Treaty referendum so cynically. They used it for short-sighted and self-serving reasons. Mary Lou McDonald's campaign was based on half-truths and downright lies. This country is in for a rude awakening. We've gained a lot from Europe, the least we could have done is have a grown up debate about this. I'd like to see what Sinn Fein proposes to do when the unemployment rate increases as foreign investment leaves. Increase the number of Fas courses? Tiocfaidh Armani indeed. It sickens me to see Sinn Fein use the Lisbon Treaty referendum so cynically. They used it for short-sighted and self-serving reasons. Mary Lou McDonald’s campaign was based on half-truths and downright lies. This country is in for a rude awakening. We’ve gained a lot from Europe, the least we could have done is have a grown up debate about this. I’d like to see what Sinn Fein proposes to do when the unemployment rate increases as foreign investment leaves. Increase the number of Fas courses? Tiocfaidh Armani indeed.

]]> By: Máire http://www.youghalonline.com/2008/06/13/the-lisbon-treaty-rejected-by-irish-electorate/comment-page-1/#comment-532 Máire Mon, 16 Jun 2008 12:26:20 +0000 http://www.youghalonline.com/?p=763#comment-532 Typical, us Irish want to benefit from all Europe has to offer us and have gladfully taken everything Europe had to offer in the past. but really, we don't actually want to assist in creating a better Europe. Ireland is now on a slippery slope back to where we were in the 80's and the No Vote campaigners are to blame along with us people who never actually took the time to read and understand the treaty. We can't blame the government for this one. Typical, us Irish want to benefit from all Europe has to offer us and have gladfully taken everything Europe had to offer in the past. but really, we don’t actually want to assist in creating a better Europe. Ireland is now on a slippery slope back to where we were in the 80′s and the No Vote campaigners are to blame along with us people who never actually took the time to read and understand the treaty. We can’t blame the government for this one.

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